he's an expert in voter registration laws. nice to have you with us. >> thank you. >> give me the scope of how serious these allegations are. this is a big deal or a little deal? >> first of all, i just want to give a brief explanation of what we're talking about here. we're not talking about people voting illegally that shouldn l. it shouldn't have any impact on the election. when you register, you fill out a form. provide a lot of information including personal information only you should have like your social security number, your driver's license number, birth date. so this is bad. it's illegal. it should be prosecuted and there are a lot of reasons that it's problematic. but we have a system in place. there was a law that was passed in 2002 that's meant to catch these kinds of things when people provide information like their social security number. there's a data base when we process the forms that we check it against. >> if someone can register illegally, explain why they then wouldn't be able to vote illegally. >> we a